@pam, thank you again for that!! really really really love this!!
thanks for the picture of the rabbit sign. i now understand already
by the way, what is the 'gum' all about, can i find the bts of girl generation parody (the one JGS is jealous of yong hwa) and the bts of the club scene on youtube?? what does KUMJA stand for?
thank you sooooooooooooooooooooooooo much for ur post!!!!!

sorry if asked too much.

@Newbie - thanks for clarifying the dates...

Yeah - the JAPAN FM WAS JUNE, you are correct!

@Felicia - the gum BTS video is forbidden. It is exclusive for members on Baidu. There are some photos lurking around in this thread...but you gotta back-read 300 pages. Kekekek! If this helps, Sukkie once said: during kiss scenes, I prepare by brushing teeth or chewing a gum...

Kum ja - as explained by Sukkie is like the sound "thug" or "bang" - i think it's a personal joke between them.

The SNSD parody is in YT...i can't find the link now...It has 5 parts.

OMG!!!!

A big round of applause for our"DETECTIVE DUO" namely sis PAM and MAZ......you really exceptional....HURRAY!!!!!!

You never know how much we appreciate your "HARDWORK"...

if u see me now, YOOOHOOO!!!!! IM JUMPING WITH HAPPINESS...........



GEUNSHIN FAMILY IS THE BEST FOREVER!!!!


We are a ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY!!!!

EVIDENCES: HACCI

- Hacci spazzes when he is teased by Sukkie during their filming of YAB (as seen in the BTS)
- Hacci was caught answering (perhaps involuntarily) Sukkie's kiss in the BTS. (That's why if the director did not shout cut, I bet they would continue kissing...lol)
- When the drama ended, she had a hard time separating from her GMN role. She sounded depressed and sad Dec 2009 up to the week before her birthday. SUKKIE REVEALED THAT HE DID NOT CONTACT SHIN HYE ON PURPOSE DURING THIS TIME.
OUR TAKE: Hacci is a brilliant actress. She never had a hard time de-attaching herself from a role/character. It is because she is confused about her feelings...if it was GMN in love with HTK or if it was really PSH in love with JGS.
- Hacci posted sad messages and songs on her Cyworld Diary and Playlist respectively. One of which is "Can't Let You Go Even If I Die" which shippers believe is dedicated to Sukkie.
- She continued to post sad and lonely messages - even sometimes with a heart-broken tone - in her site until the day of her birthday. She posted the message: "Ah ..Please ...Tears really rolled down...Because of a troubled mind. Please don't be like this anymore..." and deleted it 12:20am Seoul time February 18. Sukkie mentioned in an interview that he reads his GF blog/site. Hmm... This is the time when Sukkie posted a message that he drove his manager's car in the heavy snow from a cafe and was listening to songs. Sukkie was also awake until 5:12 in the morning chatting with his eels.
-A couple of days after her birthday, she sounded happy again based on the photo and message she posted.
-Before leaving for Taiwan, Aug 28, she posted Goodbye my love love love as a message and mentioned Hong Ki and posted YH photo. Sukkie was in Hawaii during this time.
-Sometime in 2010, she posted this picture with the message: "Must hide it well..."


PLEASE TAKE NOTE OF THE PHOTO ON THE LEFT. IT IS OBVIOUS THAT IT IS SUKKIE. THE NOSE GAVE HIM AWAY.

-When she posts sad messages while in Taiwan, her mood suddenly changes after Sukkie posts "double meaning/cryptic" messages.
-She wore the ring (the other silver simple ring) all the time on her pointee finger and the Tiffany ring on her ring finger - both on the left. Sukkie wears his on the right.



THIS WAS THE SAME RING IN THE IPAD VIDEO.
-She posted a video playing with her Ipad (the ring was clearly on her finger in the video by the way). There were rumors that the Ipad was given by Sukkie. Sukkie's eels gave him an Ipad as a present but he was never seen using it. Sukkie is a techy/gadget loving person. He has three laptops, loves his iphone 3&4G.
- Hacci twitted that she is thinking of getting a white Iphone 4. Sukkie's iPhone is white (as seen on the KBS awards show).
-When Hacci was asked in an interview as to which of the three ANJELLs is closest to her ideal man, her answer was:
Shin-hye: “Choose between prickly, gentle, and quirky? Um… As a character, the most attractive is the prickly Hwang Tae-kyung?”

Geun-seok: “Ah… so Shin-hye shows her feelings for me again.”

Yong-hwa: “I’m telling you, no matter how much I cover her with that towel, it’s no use.” [Jung Yong-hwa earned the nickname of "Towel Guy" for the scene in the men's locker room for covering Go Mi-nam's eyes with a towel.]

Shin-hye: “Hwang Tae-kyung is the one to fall for the more you see him, Kang Shin-woo is the one who draws you the moment you see him, and Jeremy’s always fun to be with. To be honest, if I had to pick one between them it would be the prickly Hwang Tae-kyung.”

HIGH CUT:: “Do you like bad boys?”

Shin-hye: “Not exactly… um…”

Geun-seok: “If you ask women about liking bad boys, they will mostly deny it, but it’s true. They’d die before admitting it though.”

Shin-hye: “I never said I’d die before admitting it.” [Using Go Mi-nam's speech pattern] “Yes, that is true. You are attractive.”

- When Sukkie teased YH: "what will you do if PSH would date you..." SH quickly answered solemnly: That would never happen.

- In their 100 questions interview, Hacci said that his ideal guy is someone who can cooks well, like his dad. Sukkie is known to be a good cook.

I HOPE YOU FELL IN LOVE WITH THEIR STORY LIKE MAZ AND I DID. I WAS SPAZZING, CRYING MYSELF TO DEATH, AND FELL IN LOVE WITH THEM OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

wow 20 geunshin shippers ONLINE!!!!

thats a BIG SUCCESS!!! considering that our COUPLE is still "MIA"...and here "VOILA!!!" our thread is super duper HOT....


wait till our "COUPLE" announce "something"....i dont know what were going to happen to our site....hahahaha

lycille wrote:
Lycille - hahaha! This may crash when that happens!!!

@sis pam...yah i agree to that it may "CRASH"...


hey sis your chrono is really something...if i see u again...i will HUG u tightly and say "THANK YOU....

my sis GAIL we miss you in this thread...go find some evidences too, together with our "DETECTIVE DUO"...

my sis laura, elana and demi...your post is always "MUST READ"..... so keep on posting GUYS!!!!


eventhough im not an active poster like all of you, i will always be here "HOPING AND PRAYING" that GEUNSHIN FAMILY will always be STRONGER FOREVER AND EVER...

@pam, that's too bad that the gum bts is not available. but thanks for explaining about it!
also thanks for explaining about the kumja
when i got free time, i shall go back track this entire 300+ posts. i feel like i missed a lot, but thanks to you and the others, i am totally catching up quite fast. i'll try to find the SNSD bts. hopefully i'll be able to find it :/
oh, where did you see her playing with the ipad? i really want to see her in the tiffany ring, because so far i didn't manage to see one

There is no doubt in Pam’s and my mind that this events unfolded as what we have said ( well give and take a few things..I’m sure we got some of the chronos wrong..but not the gist of the matter)

Just to add to what has been said… I’m sure everybody here has that lightbulb moment when you suddenly realize they were a couple…For Pam…she said it was the bedroom scene..the look on sukkie’s face…

For me, actually innocently enough, it was the prank call….

I kept thinking abt that..Through all the vids and pics…

Why did Sukkie make that call, openly, publicly and on top of that it was his birthday… Yes, he said the manager arranged it for him to received wishes frm the fans… But, knowing the scandal and the gossips, why agreed? Was it a publicity stunt… throw tidbits to the fans…make them go crazy? It got me thinking.

There are many other radio station that they could have called in, Sukkie is a radio Dj, he has many friends in the line and any radio show would love to have him on . Why Shin Hye?

So he called in. Because his manager arranged it. But, The conversation was not scripted… the conversation was as spontaneous as can be…what did he say…” I think I am better suited for you”…”you are pretty…I like to date you” (paraphrasing here)
After the truth was out, he said he wanted to hear Shin Hye’s voice because it was his birthday…Do you do that to a normal friend? Think not..you reserve it for your significant other…He said he was happy to hear her voice… He further said that he will take her out the next day for some rice/noodle in Andong..where Shin Hye chipped in and said ..in that case I’ll take u out… the laughter and the joy you hear in their voices cannot be faked at all.. at the end..after they hanged up…she was heard saying…ooh I’m gonna punch him for that…

Honestly, in the beginning I really did think it was a publicity stunt….the whole shebang …the whole deal… until 2 things happened:
1. I watched the Hawaiian vacation…and when I saw Sukkie cried , I knew he was in love. And when Pam told me the story behind it…and the letters in the sand what it meant…and how he said at that precise moment how lonely he was… I knew…LIGHTBULB moment…it was Shin Hye…no question… (rumors was flying atv this time, Sukkie wanted to go with Shin Hye...but he could not, in case they were seen......disclaimer: RUMORS)

2. Well, I consider this as ONE…LOL… the BTS..3 things pop into my face…as you all know I posted that very long body language post and I commented on these videos.. The episode where they were singing Merry christmas song at the bar, when GMN was dredged …the BTS showed Sukkie approaching Shin Hye without breaking eye contact, into her personal space and wanting to kiss her…and he squeezed shin hye’s neck for more than 5 sec…all signs of a person in love…
3. Then, of course the bedroom scene, the first time I saw sukkie looked at Shin Hye with passion in his eyes…how his eyes travelled below her face..he broke eye contact first..he was embarrass, he was afraid of what Shin Hye will see in his eyes..
4. The last scene, many secrets was held close in their eyes…long stare, touching and unspoken words…when shin Hye was ask..how she felt abt wrapping up..she said sad to leave him…Sukkie

This is my LIGHTBULB moments. I’m sure you guys have yours…

Now, to add on to what Pam as painstakingly wrote down for us…THANKS PAM…

Abt, Sukkie taking his Manager’s car on Shin Hye’s birthday: he never explain why he did, and what happened to his own car…fishy!!!
The Taiwan FM: yes , they could not help but kept glancing at each other…the eyes says it all… when Sukkie explains abt the BRIBE, he was not lying, His eyes was looking to the left, he wanted to go around Taiwan with her..he was recalling the conversation…
Also, what happened on the Variety show, Super Kings…Sukkie was again ask abt Shin Hye…and again he said they were close, live abt 5 mins away… but interestingly, when one of the host said, “they are still young, the possibility of love blossoming is high”, Sukkie answered without hesitation, straight eye contact, YES..and he elongated the YES…
Next he was caught off guard when the question was “is Shin Hye his ideal girl..and immediately he answered YES, then paused as he just realizes what he has revealed, he gave a nervous laugh and went into how his mom went to the fortune teller. A story told countless time,.he has memorized it he started to fidget with his bracelet then.
Not to mention how friendly they were on stage in Taiwan. Another thing is of course, if you analyzed the videos like me and Pam…LOL…you will see that Sukkie always has Shin Hye in his sight…always…he knows exactly where she is…he watched her frm the corner of his eyes…the moment he can’t see her..he will physically turn and look for her… he needs her….
He hides the ring and the string…the moment he knows camera is around, the ring and string disappears…
Also, if you read the 100 Q & A, there are too many similarities in their answers. Garden wedding, they both loves the beach and a few more… THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS COINCIDENCE…expert will say that.

Interestingly enough, Shin Hye has been called ‘eldest wife of the son” …we forgot what it’s called in Korean… by Sukkie ,,,while on the set…coz of shin Hye’s caring nature… this is a very honored status quo…so why did he?
Shin Hye has also changed her title to mama Jang publicly, frm Eumoni Jang (polite) to Ommi jang (informal) again reserved for somebody you are closed too…

When the pictures of Sukkie and Shin Hye in Japan came out and Shin Hye received anti fans…Shin Hye’s camp was quite ..nothing frm them…BUT Sukkie personally commented to his eels and brought the picture down…he was pissed..

Many more and too many incidents that we feel cemented what we know for a fact : They are a couple…

Ok..last but not least…in the 100 Q & A, sukkie was ask what is his fav song to sing at the karaoke; answered Eric Benet..STILL WITH YOU…
I’m posting the song and the lyrics here… I AM DEDICATING THIS SONG TO:

FIRSTLY, PAM…MY PARTNER IN CRIME…LOVE U TO BITS …CAN’T WAIT FOR OUR TRIP

SECONDLY, SIS LAURA, YOU ARE A CARING, LOVING PERSON AND I AM HAPPY TO HAVE MET YOU HERE

LASTLY TO MY DEAREST KAKAK ELANA, I AM A BETTER PERSON FROM KNOWING YOU…

Listen to the lyrics and tell me what all GEunSHinshippers think….Good NIte….



LYRICS:

"Still With You"

Heaven knows what you've been through
So much pain
Even though you can't see
I'm not far away
We always say if one of us
Somehow went away
We'd light a candle and say a prayer
Know that love still remains

Close your eyes, go to sleep
Know my love is all around you
Dream in peace, when you wake
You will know I'm still with you

Live your life from this day on
And love again
I know you'd do the same for me
That's the way that loves is supposed to be

Close your eyes, go to sleep
Know my love is all around you
Dream in peace, when you wake
You will know I'm still with you

When you feel those lonely teardrops
Rolling down your face
Just know my love watches over you
Always, always

Close your eyes, go to sleep
Know my love is all around you
Dream in peace, when you wake
You will know I'm still with you
I'm still with you

@marrsq,
where can i find that prank call thing and the 100 Q & A? is it on YT?