Sis Pam, I totally agree with you on presenting FACTS than UNFOUNDED CLAIMS....


As what you posted, Sis Pam...


Again, some were lost in the translation ... so unless it comes from a native speaker or a reliable source...then that is the time I would actually believe...this is how I post actually...I search for clear evidences/reason before I react (violently or enthusiastically) ... I guess it is the Libran in me that I balance things out first or search for the truth or closer to the truth if I can't find the truth... just wanted to share... But come to think of it...I got the translations from the pretending-to-be-the-other-camp's blog and page...hehe...

I followed your path and guess what i found when i visit the "supposed camp".......

Claims of rumors that Sukkie had a crush on his MMM co-star years before the shoot of MMM and was shown at the
Ideal Cup Variety Sukkie was the guest on the 20th Dec 2009.....(w/out evidences to support, just an allegation)......

Imagine my surprise, how misleading a phrase or an allegation can leads to......

Well, I'm not gonna do the talking......let Sukkie clarifies.......




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Watch all the parts of the show while you are there......

That's where Sukkie also mention his mom likes Shinhye and they are a MATCH MADE IN HEAVEN....

Sukkie also stated how he and Shinhye got closed after they film the Etude House CF.......

@Foxiscully
Hey there! It has been awhile and I am glad you posted!

I have the same issue with Hayate... i can see JGS in a love scene with anyone cause he just drops them the the moment the camera is off and runs to his cell phone..so I am never bothered with who he kisses on screen...Gotta love our LOYAL AND IN LOVE SUKKIE...if you doubt please go listen to "Oh My Darling" again - it is 100% for PSH...and at his Cri Shows he always rocks the house with it right after opening with his theme song "Let Me Cry" He even does a little dance that just screams I love Park Shin Hye! (Not to be confused with the SHIN HYE SHUFFLE!! )

But with PSH - maybe because she is such a nice girl -I really have a hard time watching her in love scenes especially with George Hu or UmTae Woong...maybe it is because they always fall in love with her for real...but it always makes me smile when she immediately SHOOTS THEM DOWN COLD and says NOPE NOPE NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!

But at this minute she is very safe...safe with JYH...and I am liking Heartstrings very much...so much that I get up in the morning here in America and make time to watch it live so it will count towards her ratings...But I have to watch it again when it is English subbed because I only know half the words...studying Korean, but not fluent yet...but I am surprised at how much I have picked up on just watching interviews and dramas.

@Pammoe

Thank you for posting and clearing that matter of MIS-TRANSLATION up!

Today’s Super Duper Serious Knitt Thoughts – that are not random at all:

Sis Pam is right. Sukkie is constantly testing the waters to see his eels’ opinion – but the reason they always pick MGY/WMR is because SHE IS NOT A THREAT TO THEM and THEIR FANTASIES…I am of the opinion some of them do this without even knowing WHY they pick MGY…

Why do I think this?

It is because an eel tends to be a fan that is fanatically in love with Jang Geun Suk – unrealistically in love with Jang Geun Suk…they think he is supposed to be single forever - they selfishly think he is supposed to do what they want when they want it. Quoting Jang Geun Suk directly from the YAB cast’s November 2009 Midnight Interview by Javabeans :

“Geun-seok: “There’s also the image that as an idol, you don’t live according to your personal life but that you’re a machine-like thing that moves according to the fans’ wishes. I haven’t tried being a singer so I don’t know for sure, but an actor absolutely cannot do that. To move according to the plans decided by the management company, like a flower in a greenhouse or a puppet, isn’t what an actor does. I’m a bit wild. If I go to the hair salon, I go alone. I really hate having a manager make an appointment for me or opening doors for me. Because this is my life. School, friends, that’s all on my own time, so I don’t understand why managers have to care about that and come into those areas.”

In order to continue to be successful and to make money for his future, his family and his staff, he has to do what I call “FAN SERVICE” – that means …listen up all doubters and you of little faith in our Sukkie….HE HAS TO AGREE WITH THE MAJORITY, but that DOES NOT MEAN THAT IS WHAT IS IN HIS HEART…

This is why at every FM when the eels scream for WMR, he asks if he should choose GMN…he wants to see if the crowd will be receptive to GMN – now most of the time he will go with WMR and crowd opinion, but there are times when he just goes ahead and chooses GMN/PSH…and that is what I love about him so much…he is not afraid to go against the crowd…he is very independent – he just protects PSH.

Listen to what Sis Pam says…READ BETWEEN THE LINES…he might deny the relationship, but HE WILL NEVER DENY PARK SHIN HYE…he constantly talks about her, chooses her and never ever denies how he feels…it is always there …RIGHT OUT IN THE OPEN…you just have to listen carefully and not get caught up in his pretty looks and the words he says when giving fan service to the eels…you have to listen not only to what he says but WHAT HE DOESN’T SAY…

Sis Pam is right again…most of us speak English and rely on translators …you have to be careful with the translators because some of them will slant the translation to their own point of view…and if the translator is an eel…watch out! Some websites and blogs out there leave whole chunks of dialogue out and GMN/PSH is never mentioned, even though Sukkie might have talked about her off and on through the whole Cri Show…they act like she doesn’t even exist…

I will quote Park Shin Hye from the same Midnight interview:

Shin-hye: “If you win some, you also lose some. Actors have our own lives too, but there are things like scandals and gossip that make people talk. You have to take responsibility for more things.”

Once again …read between the lines here…They are both “taking responsibility” and keep their relationship quiet – THEY PROTECT EACH OTHER- especially Jang Geun Suk - he PROTECTS PARK SHIN HYE at all costs and I believe some of his recent antics are staged deliberately to shift media attention away from her to him…he also does this with eels…

Eels have been known to be so bold as to even attack PSH in JGS’s own fan club- saying she is fat, posting unflattering photo-shopped pictures of her, posting hateful comments, posting mean comments to pictures Jang Geun Suk has posted himself of them together – even a innocent picture of JGS and PSH is enough to set them off…and when that happens JGS gets mad…and has been known to vocalize that anger…

This is my personal opinion on the subject of eels…in recent months JGS ‘s life has become more restrained and he has lost great personal freedoms because of the very eels that proclaim to love him. They do not give him privacy and their messages to him are filled with requests and demands that are extremely unrealistic – while I believe that JGS is grateful and appreciative of his fans - he is also a bit frustrated with them and sometimes downright dislikes them because of their actions and demands. He is an independent intelligent man who likes to do his own thing when and how he wants – please refer to above quote from the Midnight interview- where he says he likes his freedom.

Those of us that are familiar with him see his frustration, that is sometimes posted in his messages on his fan club site, on Twitter and on other accounts such as Jason’s Weibo – I always feel so bad for him when he has to go and tell his eels to stand down and quit behaving like they do – they should want him to be happy…and for him to be happy HE HAS TO BE WITH PARK SHIN HYE…

Back to the whole MGY/WMR thingy….JGS has said over and over and over…even repeating himself in an interview about 2 ½ months ago that He and MGY are JUST FRIENDS…and that is it REALLY IS BETTER IF THEY STAY THAT WAY…read between the lines here…what he really means is that they ARE COWORKERS, will NEVER BE MORE THAN COWORKERS, and that THEY HAVE TO COMMUNICATE BECAUSE THEY ARE COWORKERS…as for the going for drinks bit…do they really outside of work??? I do not think they do…once again – FAN SERVICE…it is his actions and what he doesn’t say in this matter that we should pay attention to.

He might say that he wants to work with MGY, but when asked who he likes/loves/will marry - it is always GMN/PSH that he chooses.

Pam is right at the Cri Shows and FM- when he chooses MGY/WMR, he doesn't say he likes/loves her...he says WMR - THE CHARACTER NOT THE PERSON- pay attention here please - it is all in the words he very carefully chooses...he will say WMR is feminine, wifely, Renaissance-like (what he really means is AVANT-HYE who is GMN, who is Piggy Rabbit,who is PSH)...he will always refer to MGY/WMR in terms of WORK...with GMN/PSH it is always in terms of LOVE....

Just keep in mind who walks his “puppies” with him late at night, goes with him for early morning/middle of the night coffee dates, goes for walks with him in his neighborhood and by the Han River, and quiet bike rides with a certain young girl that owns a dark orange bike, most likely given to her as a present, just like her iPad. – I will give you all a hint here…IT IS NOT MGY!!!

(JGS has only one dog Suni, but when asked what he likes to do with his girl- he said he likes to walk their puppies…PSH has more than one dog and refers to them as puppies- he made a slip of the tongue in this interview and we all caught him – hahaha!)

JGS and ALL OF HIS FRIENDS, STAFF AND HIS PARENTS have communication with PARK SHIN HYE…so if they are in contact with her he is in contact with her…someone has to go into their…Ooops! ...I mean her… closet and jewelry box to get all those clothes and accessories they share –

His mother loves and approves of her and PSH’s mother approves of him – they are, as Sukkie always says every chance he gets, THEY ARE A MATCH MADE IN HEAVEN…and because his mother did the matchmaking fortune teller reading …JGS FIRMLY BELIEVES THEY ARE FATED…THEY ARE SOULMATES…SHE IS THE ONLY ONE HE CAN EVER THINK OF AS HIS WIFE…these statements have been proudly stated by our Sukkie OVER and OVER and OVER…and Park Shin Hye, her management team and her parents NEVER DENY THAT WHAT SUKKIE SAYS IS FALSE…and that means dear Shippers, THAT WHAT SUKKIE SAYS IS TRUE…once again the answers are in what is not spoken …

Why you ask?

Because a father of a daughter would speak up or have her manager deny any involvement if there truly was no involvement …but what does her father do…he is CAUGHT HANDING OUT JANG GEUN SUK CANDY BARS ON WHITE DAY to fans at his front door because Sukkie sent so much candy to PSH that she said she hates chocolate – very telling action here…not handing out PSH items…but rather **ahem** FUTURE SON IN LAW CANDY… or is he already....

And then there is the fact that those of who know our couple also know that PSH’s manager is a GeunShin Shipper…

When in doubt I always say go watch Sukkie in World Cup episode because it tells so much about their relationship…how the Etude Kiss CF started everything, how YAB was special to him…he was wearing their couple ring and even bit it when having to deny PSH against another woman…you can see the pride and love in his eyes…then he tells the famous fortune teller story…watch the women’s reactions on the panel – PRICELESS..it got very quiet there for a minute…why? You ask….because they took his comments about it very seriously...like his engagement is a done deal seriously.... and that is because -

In Korea astrological readings in the matter of marriage are taken very serious, that was not a cheap reading his mother had done…it was a serious marriage reading…after the reading came back positive, his mother followed Korean politeness and etiquette by paying PSH and her parents a visit with Sukkie in tow…this is a formal visit that was followed by other visits…

Also in Korea the future daughter in law goes to visit her future mother in law who will ask her many questions so that she may get to know her as A POTENTIAL BRIDE…and PARK SHIN HYE MADE THAT FORMAL VISIT…PSH has also referred to herself AS CONSIDERED FOR JANG GUEN SUKS POTENTIAL BRIDE…and she has addressed his mother as Eumoni in public -Sukkie was just beaming with pride and happiness when she did that - which is formal for mother and can mean mother in law…

I always start with that video - it says so much and then I refer back to more recent statements made by the two such as working with JGS is the best chemistry and was "MAGIC" and "GMN because she is younger and lives 5 min away "

Peeps,like I have said before, her parents literally live next door...down the staircase across the parking lot and up the stairs...In Taiwan recently PSH says Oppa Suk is like brother next door, but brother in Korea also means boyfriend...and is supposed to be a big turn on for guys there to be called Oppa....

PSH is doing here what Sukkie always does, they play with words and riddles...

So in closing, Please do not doubt because you haven't heard any news on our couple, or JGS said or did something in an interview or FM, or even another site has posted -

1. Read between the lines - what is not said is sometimes very important
2. Do some extra research
3. Look for pictures of our couple sharing accessories and wearing their rings - or as Pam puts it "evidences"
4. Ask someone - there are lots of us on this site who are knowledgeable and I am always open to questions - chat me up!
5. No news is good news...it means they are happy - they need privacy too - imagine trying to be with the one you love and being followed constantly...YUCK!

A true GeunShin Shipper never doubts because they do not tell us every little thing that they are doing in their private lives- that really is none of our business and we need to respect that - we need to give them privacy - I just wish the eels would do that...and quit chasing him every where in vans and cars...someone is gonna get hurt...

Right now I am enjoying all the newbies on this site - we are posting the best of the best of our couple lately so that you can see what we find truly spazz worthy...and of course it is a joy to see what you post being new to our couple - the joy of discovery and I will be there spazzing along with you because...

This love story is better than any drama, movie or book - it has more ups and downs, twists and turn and is full of love...know what the best thing is about JANG GEUN SUK LOVES PARK SHIN HYE?

IT IS A TOTALLY REAL LOVE STORY

AS A TOTALLY DEVOTED SUPPORTER OF OUR COUPLE - I AM AS ALWAYS -SHIPPING MY DAY AWAY!

Sis Knittgirl, very well said indeed.....love your post....thank you.


Sis Pam, thanks for taking the trouble to clear the air for those who have doubts on Sukkie.

Sis Kari...again, hats off to you...perfectly elaborated and explained. I couldn't say it better the way you do.

Sis Cassie...I felt I had to ... because it saddens me to hear them losing trust on our Prince when they pour their heart out on me..I had to bring back the confidence and love for Prince J while there still is... Can't blame them though..not all of us are strong-willed enough and/or understand Sukkie enough.. this is how I love Shin Hye and her Prince...together and individually...

I am just hoping that my hunch that our couple will spend a quiet time together since Sukkie landed in Seoul is true. They have both been quiet for a day now...so yeah...i'm hoping and praying that they are enjoying each other in each other's arms...while filming both of their projects on the side...

@Pammoe

I am sure that your hunch is correct - they almost always spend the first day/night back together...quiet is good...very good...

I am sure that a clue will be given when PSH goes back to work...she is usually very happy after he comes home.

two of my favourite authors, researchers and analysts ate pam and sis knitt..komawo

i've been waiting for you guys thank you for coming out and shedding us lights..though i do not doubt about the real score bet our prince and princess, it's just so comforting as i read your analyses. you two are amazing it feels good reading your posts..

and to my fellow GS shippers, thank you for not faltering

as much as we are lucky to have hacci and sukkie, i believe they are also blessed having the GS shippers/lovers who constantly and sincerely believing, trusting and loving them truthfully no matter what..

hi guenshins...

thanks for the updates... the reposts videos, for the pictures, and links...

the dance collection was hilarious! im laughing out loud and went crazy! hahaha

good job!

im reading other related topics to that site (dramabeans - thanks for reposting it since im not on the page yet where you got it, im backreading), i noticed something on hacci's interview but ill double check it first before i comment on that...

currently, im very much overwhelmed (if i may say so) with the updates... all i can say is i trust our couple.... as what i posted, and what guenshin shippers believes in, they are real... no questions about that... videos, interviews, photos has been presented... knowing the trend in korea especially awareness about anti fan... we all know that our prince is just protecting his princess in all way he can at the same time, be proud of her in his own way.. its obviously seen in his smiles and eyes... all over his moves how in love he is and happy he is.. its been 2 years from the YAB days and yet, we can still see thats hes a star only shining for her..

unti next time shippers...

keep the love.. keep the faith! guenshin is real and forever!

Hello! It’s very nice to read all your postings here..so wonderful meanings and thoughts that made me believe this couple is for REAL. I’m new here and i just want to express my inner feelings towards our Couple GEUNSHIN!!
Firstly..How miracle the love of this two lovebirds…back in 2004..it was their very first met with each other though unofficially on the set of non-stop mini drama..shin hye still remember that for a long time that she had met sukkie, and I thought during that drama, there was some glances from sukkie towards our shinhye.. which mean the eyes connection just happened between them unconsciously ..btw it is fate from God ,they met again but in this time they had chance to know each other..from etude vip cf and etude bb compact cf..they growing close to each other..i think based on the range of time they done the etude cf together, it only took 1 year, i mean from year 2008 to 2009 to them to started as friends..and in YAB days was the most precious because their feelings towards each other had developed into love, which I think they had secretly dating during that time..i’m so grateful seeing our lovebirds met each other not because of their planning or etc..but they were fated from God to be together as a couple, like many other couples too..I think they are completing each other ..judging from their mannerisms, physical and most importantly their souls..thus we can said they are complete for each other..they are the soulmates though we as the Geunshin shippers may not be seen by our eyes, but deeply inside our heart we can see and feel their love, their compatibility, their chemistry as the soulmates.. and I can say that nowadays..their love blooming from day to day ,getting bigger and bigger and they already developed mutual understanding towards each other…though many challenges and responsibilities they have to take..and trust me..if they are fated couple, they will able to handle all the constraints together and I think they have some strength to do that because they have BIG SUPPORTS and BLESSINGS, especially from their parents, families, close friends, and us . .

Last but not least, I want to share my quote here:
SUKKIE and SHINHYE are IN LOVE ,
when they’re sharing something in common,
when they’re deeply looking into each other eyes,
when one of them stares their lover unconsciously,
when they’re missing each other very much,
when they’re ready to sacrifice their time being together,
when they’re very caring and considerate to each other,
when they have inner feelings of love..
when they’re really understanding their lover..and
when the love of these two budding naturally and it was fated for them to be together till the death separating them…

p/s : I don’t care about all the negative stuffs and hateful comments made by the antis..because I know it is 100% fabricated!!The truth will fight all the lies from them !!

its me again...

very well said knittgrrl.. i know youre one of the great contributor in this thread.. with all those materials that has been posted as evidences, for us to know and believe more that they are indeed a real couple... ive been watching korean dramas but i rarely check the artists profile.. i dont even remember names.. but with these certain drama, youre beautiful, i fell in love not only in the drama but also with tae kyung and go minam... that ended me in checking their profiles.. personal websites, following twitter of psh.. and even checking their previous drama or movie... even wishing them a couple for real.. until researching thats why i ended up in this site and knowing more and more about them...

im having random thoughts right now and i dont know what to say... how will i start... i want to comment on every thing that has been said.. but i guess, no need to do it coz its pretty clear.. pardon me for an unorganized posting here...

i guess ill have it next time.. sorry...

Sukkie singing Without Words in "Remember The Lyrics" Show in China.....


We all know this is Shinhye's favorite song....she even sang it on MBC pre-broadcast interview of Heartstring....



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How I miss our FATED COUPLE.....