i concur with you dita and tee, these ladies deserve a standing ovation and our thanks for bringing us their great talents in DiSSECTING our couple's actions, comments and every FATE related issues. somehow all of the stars line up when it comes to our couple.
I mean it gives me the goosebump that they've met when SH was only 13? and he was 16? was it (the NonStop series)

and speaking of the Etude CF, i was just watching the bts of that and as i was watching it, i can truly feel the ATTRACTION then, I mean they were dancing like a true couple and GS can't seem to get his eyes off our SH, and I think everyone were teasing them back then (at 1:12) because of the REAL KISS they seemed to have shared at that CF.

here's the link to the vid:

Thank u once again to everyone, especially to Earthprincess and Gonnabeme. u sure did ur research and shared with us. Dears, some of ur observations, and also based on what u have learned, it is spazz worthy for these 2 wonderful couple PSH+JGS. we agree 100% !

Feel that both want to do more in their own lives and individual careers, they have this special friendship / relationship that both don't want to loose. maybe someday, somehow their paths will cross once again for a fruitful union. hahaha. am getting ahead of myself there.

Two thumbs up (Go Mi Nam style) to the rapport here!!! Personally, I try to steer clear from plain, crazy spazzing ~ those mostly based solely on emotion and seldom given much thought. The type where people create their own version of truths over small details, even when the bigger details say otherwise. I don't know how to explain it, but I think you get my drift... That's why I really appreciate this mature take on spazzing over our favorite couple!

Gosh, couldn't I be any luckier to be interacting with all of you smart people? Not only do you give joy to my spazzing heart, you also add wisdom to my spazzing mind.

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CT!!! That was lengthy!! I'm pretty sure you mentioned everything much, but there are details off the top of my head that I remember at random...

1. When YH called JKS in a variety show, he said.. "Shin Hye... Go Mi Nam" ... When Shin Hye was describing the roles of her cast mates in YB, when she got to TK's, she said, "Jang Geun Suk... Hwang Tae Kyung."
2. In the BTS's... Hong Ki, who is good friends with them both, has been spazzing over their moments (three times, I think?) He also mentioned Sukkie when he and SH were having the "sexy girl" conversation. So we sense he knows something (but we need more proof for this, hahaha!)
3. The picture Shin Hye psoted of the hooded guy, which picture analyses show has a good chance to be Sukkie (though, this, too, is not 100% sure)
4. JKS repeated in one of his fanmeetings (Taiwan, I think) that his mom really likes her. His mom was there, too, and I haven't heard any news of objections from her end.
5. They have worked with some fellow artists on separate occasions (Heechul, SJK, KimBum... who else?)

It's great to see them like each other, respect each other, care for each other, and to a certain point, I think there's also love in the middle of it all (whether it is romantic or otherwise remains to be seen). That's all my sleepy mind can add to the list right now. Hahaha! I couldn't event classify what falls under Fate and what falls under Chance (Mee and I talked about this at length some time ago) ... and in most of the recent cases, Choice.

May I just add... Dorothy, your last statement, the one enclosed in parentheses, just got me laughing much!!! That was more than a subtle hint.

Vira & I have been going back & forth on this subject. I'd like to add the following:

There are a few things I noticed about them & how their relationship has evolved. At the start of YB there seems to have been a bit of power play between the two. She let him know she speaks her own mind. She came across older than her age-he said she was like a "noona.". At the YB cast & crew official debut presentation, KS & SH were friendly, but not super close. He said something about her to the press and the look on her face was "I don't like that." She jumped in and spoke up. It happened a 2nd time where he started to say something, she cut him off and spoke up again. He was taken aback with this bantering back & forth. So I think from the start he understood that she expected to be his equal, nothing less. She is not like other girls. He adjusted. Once they spent more time together, she allowed for him to take on the "leader role." I saw a more girlish behavior surface-ie: in one of the bts she runs & rams into his back as he is walking away. Not all 20 year olds do that. At the end of YB, they were completely in sync with each other. That is what I enjoyed seeing.

wow.. QB.. i smile sweetly reading your posting. yep, i remembered d PC, he said she was like an older brother to him. then immediately she started to disagree with him n followed by few more lines of disagreement - but a sweet one to look at.

n i laughed at the runs & ram thingy she did to him. yea, only lil girl will do that.. ahahaha.. so cute of her.

good points Queenbee, like the way ur mind works. one of the many animated discussions i have with friends, early on Shin Hye was out there, outspoken, not as bashful, she was admirable. she fills in to Sukkie's sentences. they actually compliment one another and seem to know what the other will say next. As time progressed, she let him lead and allows him to shine more. he must be aware of that. then, everything fell into place, the ease, naturalness and closeness can't be discounted of these 2.

Shin Hye is mature way beyond her age. JGS shouldn't take too long, 'coz with PSH personality, she sure has a lot of admirers waiting in the wings.

Sadly, I have not watched that PC clip. Anyone willing to share?

I think PSH is indeed mature for her age, hence the roles offered her before. I think YAB taught her to go back to her more natural and younger self which is a good thing for her since it allowed her to not compromise her youth for the business she's in. And I do think she is the kind who sort of gets into role a bit too seriously (not in a bad way) to the point she internalizes it for a while.

If JGS had indeed called her as such "like a noona" then that's another hint of how she can easily fall into his list of ideals. After all, doesn't JGS go after "noonas"? If JGS was really my dongsaeng, I would really like to offer my advice. PSH is good for him because he gets the best of both worlds. He gets the wisdom and maturity of a "noona", but he also gets the lead role as an "oppa" since he says that in relationships he tends to be the more expressive and dominant one.

in part, i wish them both chances to experience different partners, relationships, projects and end up together later. but then part of me also thinks that if they really are meant for each other or they just really happen to click with each other now, then it probably won't hurt to enter into commitment. this way they get to know each other more and really learn whether they are as what we think them to be - meant-to-be. in my mind, the risk involved in either keeping it on hold or committing to it now are the same: falling out of the spark they have now due to time and experience. so, i can understand why the choice may be very difficult.

on another hand, i also have a feeling that JGS is resisting his feelings, for reasons still confusing to me. it's like i feel him telling himself that SH is not his ideal, too young, too talented, too pure etc. and this is what i think is hurting SH during those times she was down. if SH was my dongsaeng, i would tell her to stop seeking him if she's done all she could. so looking at her energy these days, i am hoping that it's not because of JGS but because of a newfound independence and confidence in herself. Why? Because that can enlighten JGS with his emotions and drive him to action. Or it can inspire SH to finally let go if this cause is a moot one. at that point, i would hope Fate plays a role so whatever he decides is also in tune with her decision. we don't want JGS wanting a relationship and SH letting go or SH fighting for it and JGS continuing to resist, do we?

oh my goodness! do you think that way too? i have that feeling too- KS trying not to fall in love with SH. my take is he never expected to fall in love with someone as young as SH. but i think it's too late for him now, he's done for. am just curious what he'll do about it.

i can almost see cups of coffee and tea on a table in front of me, plates of partly eaten rum cake, blueberry cheesecake and broken chocolate chip cookies too, a cute guy on the corner busy with his laptop and a couple on another table playing cutesy, while us girls dissect this mystery called 8790. LOL! who ordered the blueberry cheesecake? can i take a bite? hehe!

what follows is a part of what QueenBee and i talked about...

you know that part where KS was about to take her hand during the press conference at the start of YB? where SH was wearing a black suit and HK had that shiny gold shoes? and then SH pulled her hand out of KS' reach and sort of put both her hands in her pant's pocket to hide the movement? i wonder if SH would still do that now that they're close. i have a feeling it'll be KS who will not be doing such an action now. i think KS would save SH from having to face any antifans but at the same time will do his utmost to very slowly introduce SH to his fans.

SH is definitely KS' Chinese puzzle, an enigma- she's a girl, an ahjumma, a noona, a boy, a baby, a woman. his siren.

Ate Vira, I've always been a fan of your similes and personifications - now it's Chinese puzzle. And I also hope we're all somewhere sitiing and discussing this in person - that would be really grand!

Yup QB, when he said in Champagne that they got closer after kissing (I'm still not sure which kiss he is referring too, by the way - they've shared too many!) ... I think there was more left unsaid there.

Dorothy, with the way things are going now (what we know of), I think they're pretty much in agreement with their set up (whatever that is). While I am not sure if I would want to see them in a relationship with others, I definitely agree that they should pair up with other people professionally. In their kind of work, it's the only way to grow. And we all know how hardworking and dedicated they both are to their craft.

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By the way, they both updated again. The 24-hour theorty strikes back!

now that i've been reading other updates and observing this two more closely, i would like to edit my post earlier this evening. geez, they're going faster than us now (wheee! this is becoming a thrill of a ride with them). vira, you're right, i guess JGS is done for.

i think the cool-off did work in a way. so, i am proud of them for taking that time apart. they really are wiser beyond their years due to that.

both of them appear to be sending subtle messages in their cyworlds today... like a commitment promise to someone. and i find it amusing that they do it in front of the hundreds (or is it thousands) of stars and eels looking on. that's pretty deviant.

i think i will take a break myself in analyzing them as my own reason is now failing me. i need to get a lil bit of my science-y self back and try not to fluff the truth for more than its worth. ah, these two, how do you make me crazy so?